Lisa Congdon on feeling like you really know the people that you follow 05: Out Of Line audio only

Lisa Congdon is an artist, illustrator and author of 7 books, including her most recent release, A Glorious Freedom: Older Women Leading Extraordinary Lives. Lisa is a swimmer, biker, animal lover, speaker and advocate, and was named one of the 40 Women Over 40 to Watch in 2015. On a more personal note, Lisa created the artwork for this podcast, and I feel so lucky to have Out of Line visually represented by her creativity. Lisa and her wife, Clay, live and work in Portland, Oregon, so we hopped on a Skype