I don t have a name or size for the hock, I m using Semperfli Spider Thread 18, 0 brown, closedcell foam, thin plastic wires, UNIFloss, ICgel, UV resin, yellow goose shoulder, regal pheasant tail, brown body stretch, turkey marabou, Brown large cock hackle, rachis of feathers. it tucks me, about two and a half hours to