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When I start to feel overwhelmed by the climate challenges we face, I think about Hannah Ritchie, a researcher at Our World in Data. Her datadriven approach is an essential antidote to environmental doomsdayism and provides some muchneeded optimism about humanitys ability to tackle big problems. Hannah recently joined me on my podcast, Unconfuse Me, to talk about her terrific new book Not the End of the World, why its so hard to wrap our minds around human progress, what we would ask a time traveler about the future, and more. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more at